I agree it needed reinvention and there was actually a series idea floating around which I loved by a semi-professional where warp travel is made impossible due to an unknown event and the Federation is cut off from its various parts. And the point is to solve the mystery and restore contact and order to the quadrant/galaxy in the face of this disaster. The ideas with characterization were particularly captivating to me and it felt more like a long, single novel of Star Trek with the indominability of an idea and hope in the face of impossible odds.
Of course, looking back, Voyager was soooo dang cheesy. I agree all around there.
This film may surprise me when I do wind up seeing it in some form...or this film may wind up being like an anti-Star Trek 1. Instead of being utterly devoid of action, being utterly saturated with it to point of it feeling as dumb as no action. Hopefully, a second film may find the right balance between action, ideals, and character motion. I consider myself hopeful on the whole. I figure the film will be a financial success but I don't know if it'll work quite as well as Batman Begins did for that story universe.
My main feeling is maybe I see too much of Star Trek MMO style--- Star Trek "Blow Shit Up!" War stuff in this attempt.
Exactly. And since the new movies' story is pre-Original Series timescale...I can't help but imagine they'll hold onto that same antagonism of a "classic villain" for at least a forthcoming movie or two.
Well...Star Trek is best when it's trying to redefine itself (see DS9 which did a lot of stuff I really love later on). But I think the Star Wars archetype basis, even if it's unconsciously done, a bit heavy. I mean I've even seen an icy planet with alien beasties. I bet they smell even worse on the inside than the outside (although its face looks like a vagina @_@) ;)
Some of the reasons star trek never appealed to me:
- Whenever I saw it on, and tried to watch it... I had no idea what was going on, who was who, or any background... seemingly very unfriendly to a new viewer unless they had watched everything in order since the series started a gazillion years ago.
- Complete and utter technological failure... "Launch torpedos" ... "oh no we can't for silly plot reasons!"... "beam us up!" "oh no we can't for silly plot reasons!"... "we just hit a canadian goose... all shields are down!"... "we just hit another canadian goose - our ship is paralyzed and we will lose life support in an hour!"... "oh no a badguy... but I have no weapons and even if I did they would be ineffective for silly plot reasons!"
- failure to be exciting - I'm not saying it has to be an action series to have my attention but every episode I've seen seems to involve the ship getting paralyzed and everyone boarding themselves inside as the menacing whatever slowly overtakes everything and the heroes respond by talking and pacing about until some deus ex machina saves them just before the TV timeslot ends -_-
Hehe...yeah. ^^ That's about it usually. But then you get an interestingly-relevant episode like "Darmok" about a failure to communicate. The best ones play like theater. And yeah...that life support in one hour crap is dull....like "Oh no...I'll be scared!...in an hour!"
So it costs 2x more than it is worth, has reduced functionality, short battery life, no heat dissipation systems, looks pleasing to the eye but lacks ergonomics, has to be taken to special shops to be repaired, cannot be easily opened for maintenance and cleaning, and is not compatible with many programs and functions ^_^????????????????????
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Of course, looking back, Voyager was soooo dang cheesy. I agree all around there.
This film may surprise me when I do wind up seeing it in some form...or this film may wind up being like an anti-Star Trek 1. Instead of being utterly devoid of action, being utterly saturated with it to point of it feeling as dumb as no action. Hopefully, a second film may find the right balance between action, ideals, and character motion. I consider myself hopeful on the whole. I figure the film will be a financial success but I don't know if it'll work quite as well as Batman Begins did for that story universe.
My main feeling is maybe I see too much of Star Trek MMO style--- Star Trek "Blow Shit Up!" War stuff in this attempt.
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- Whenever I saw it on, and tried to watch it... I had no idea what was going on, who was who, or any background... seemingly very unfriendly to a new viewer unless they had watched everything in order since the series started a gazillion years ago.
- Complete and utter technological failure... "Launch torpedos" ... "oh no we can't for silly plot reasons!"... "beam us up!" "oh no we can't for silly plot reasons!"... "we just hit a canadian goose... all shields are down!"... "we just hit another canadian goose - our ship is paralyzed and we will lose life support in an hour!"... "oh no a badguy... but I have no weapons and even if I did they would be ineffective for silly plot reasons!"
- failure to be exciting - I'm not saying it has to be an action series to have my attention but every episode I've seen seems to involve the ship getting paralyzed and everyone boarding themselves inside as the menacing whatever slowly overtakes everything and the heroes respond by talking and pacing about until some deus ex machina saves them just before the TV timeslot ends -_-
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